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Off-Campus Flex: Back From the Dead

Though we previously reported the Death of Off-Campus Flex, we're here to edit that pronouncement. Kind of. While Hamdel sandwiches remain just out of reach (so close, yet also far!), CCSC President Michelle Diamond just announced that University Hardware is now accepting Flex.

This way, you can use all the cash you don't spend on kitchen appliances and housewares to buy all the Hamdel you want. Everything comes full circle.

See also: Hamdel, Not Hamdel, Off-campus Flex, Off-campus Flex We Hardly Knew Ye, University Hardware

Posted by ccsc'er : #1 · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 9:36 PM (from campus)

after all that, we get flex... at university hardware.

yep. that about sums up the diamond presidency.

Posted by hmmm : #2 · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 10:13 PM (from campus)

so when is Krebs going to claim that he did this, too?

Posted by Hmm : #3 · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 10:21 PM (from campus)

Isn't University Hardware relocating to Jersey?

Posted by Hmmmertujyuoliyu : #4 · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 10:28 PM (from campus)

i thought that was academy hardware

Posted by hmmm : #5 (in reply to #3) · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 10:30 PM (from campus)

Is Krebs going to claim responsibility for the relocation to Jersey too?

Posted by SEAS '09 : #6 · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 10:34 PM (from campus)

Bwog, why do I keep reading in the Times/Time Magazine that the Columbia University rate is that of Columbia College? Where is SEAS? Penn doesn't report just Wharton, Cornell not just CAS. This is really sticking in my craw.

Posted by CC '09 : #7 · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 10:40 PM (from campus)

SEAS drags us down in the rankings because of its high acceptance rate. When it comes to reporting stats for magazine rankings, SEAS is like the ugly ducking in the family that the parents lock up in the back room when there is company over.

Posted by wisdom : #8 (in reply to #6) · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 10:42 PM (from campus)

Well, the SEAS admit rate would bring down the Columbia average, and Columbia wants to publish whatever rate will make it look as selective as possible. In contrast I think Wharton has a lower admit rate than UPenn College, so UPenn has an incentive to include Wharton. (Note - that isn't meant as a diss to SEAS - I know SEAS has higher SAT scores/maybe is more self-selective in some ways.)

Posted by Same : #9 · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 10:58 PM (from campus)

Right, but Cornell has a disincentive to include some of its 46 (I think I'm undercounting) schools, or Penn with everything not Wharton or College.

My point is, SEAS barely bumps up the accept rate. SEAS has maybe a 16% acceptance rate, but such a lower number of applicants, that the combined percentage is barely over 10%. This is still more selective than half of the Ivy League.

Not to mention that, yes, SEAS kids have higher SAT's and the kids applying to Engineering majors tend to be more self-selected/engaged than those applying to a school where they can major in Dance, Art History or English.

My disrespect for many of the humanities (or at least their rigor) is showing.

Posted by hmmm : #10 (in reply to #9) · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 11:24 PM (from campus)

Well... Cornell probably has to include all of its schools or only the college. Like, it would probably look too weird to include say the random 17 lowest schools, and not include the rest.

Even if Columbia would still be in the top half of the Ivy League, I think the admin really loves to be able to say it is the MOST selective of the Ivy League. I think partly it is because a lot of people consider Columbia right below Harvard, Yale, Princeton, so Columbia really wants to be able to prove itself the best in some regard.

Posted by ramble rabble : #11 · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 11:33 PM (from campus)

It's really weird, going to Columbia and not being so caught up on feeling like the best. My sense of Stanford and Michigan is that each can get caught up in that phenomenon, being so geographically removed. Whereas we're in an epsilon-neighborhood of an hour between Yale and Princeton.

Maybe I only sometimes think about this when procrastinating from homework. Or maybe because Columbia doesn't appeal to my sense of the academic landscape as established by prime-time sitcoms in the 90's (which implanted Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Stanford pretty firmly).

This is all really silly. Why do these conversations always devolve into penis-size comparisons and nonsense?

I can feel more ambitious students passing by me in their studies while I waste time on this train of thought.

Posted by Bah : #12 (in reply to #9) · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM

"My disrespect for many of the humanities (or at least their rigor) is showing."

I'm really getting sick of the humanities-vs-sciences academic rigor pissing contest. Different people are good at different things, deal with it. Maybe into level humanities courses are easier than intro science courses, but once you get into the final years of your major, it's hard no matter what you're studying. I'm a lit major currently working on a 15-page paper using two source texts and seven or eight analytical texts. My prof expects me to provide a coherent argument, break some new literary analysis ground, and make the sentences snappy to boot. And really, dance is easy? You think it's easy to subject your body to punishing physical exertion on a daily basis, watch everything you put into your mouth, enter the studio every day knowing that one wrong move, one too many torn tendons, and you could permanently lose your shot at your dream? And art history isn't exactly a cakewalk. Just like a chemistry major has to memorize the table of elements, an art history major has to know countless slides, be able to see a picture and know offhand the artist, period, culture, influences.

Like I said, different people are good at different things. If it wasn't for us lowly humanities majors, there wouldn't be newspapers, entertainment, politicians. Without the scientists, there wouldn't be airplanes, medicine, computers. The world needs both science majors and humanities majors to run properly.

Posted by tell me again : #13 (in reply to #12) · reply · track

April 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM (from campus)

what the difference is between an english degree and graduating from a polishing school?

Posted by what a : #14 (in reply to #13) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 12:05 AM (from campus)

douche. get over your inferiority complex, asshat.

Posted by heheheh : #15 (in reply to #12) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 12:15 AM (from campus)

Give me your literary arty-farty paper over Galois theory any day. And nobody memorizes the periodic table.. it's always a supplemental cheat sheet. What we use instead is a brain.

Posted by so you are saying : #16 (in reply to #15) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 12:22 AM (from campus)

so you're saying that chem majors have a cheat sheet while art history majors go through the rigorous process of memorizing slides...

Posted by good sir : #17 (in reply to #11) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 12:23 AM

if you claim to have gotten your info on school rankings from sitcoms they are as follows.

(based solely on saved by the bell)

1) MIT

2) Yale

3) Columbia

4) Cal

5) Iowa

6) The Army

Of course screech went to MIT. Zach got into yale because he is a a genteel aristocrat and did well on his SATS. Jessie went to Columbia because she fucked up on the SATS.

Lisa went to Cal because she still didn't cut it for the top three but didn't go to college on a wrestling scholarship like AC Slater.

Truth be told, I knew my dad went to Columbia, but didn't know that it was more than just some random college until Jessie from Saved by the Bell went there. Then I thought, it might actually be a decent school.

Posted by cc '10 : #18 (in reply to #17) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 12:52 AM (from campus)

best comment ever!!

Posted by so... : #19 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 1:00 AM (from campus)

we have flex at nussbaum, deluxe, fairway, and university hardware. Eh. Not bad. Nussbaum is delish. Get that shit in milano since hamdels a no go...it was probs the number 2 sandwich place.

Posted by wait : #20 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 1:01 AM (from campus)

who went to army?

Posted by !!! : #21 (in reply to #19) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 1:06 AM (from campus)

Wait, shit, Deluxe has Flex? Mother of god, awesome!!!1

Posted by and : #22 (in reply to #19) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 1:06 AM (from campus)

don't we have it a westside? i feel like i saw an add for it...

Posted by I think they do : #23 (in reply to #22) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 1:11 AM (from campus)

Their ad in the Jester was hilarious by the way

Posted by Anonymous : #24 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 1:21 AM (from campus)

At Columbia everyone was smart in high school (with the possible exception of athletes, although I doubt even that), only once we got here the non-engineers (mostly) got laid. This lack of fucking leads to the bitterest of envy, hence the eternal pissing contest which must ensue, despite the fact that all smart people realize that both humanities and science are necessary for a rounded and happy life.

Posted by @ wait : #25 (in reply to #20) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 1:30 AM

slater could have gone to the army, but thankfully, instead got that scholarship to university of iowa.

so iowa > the army (not to be confused with usma, which is probably just as good as iowa)

Posted by CCer : #26 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 1:51 AM (from campus)

Hm true, once I dated an engineer and didn't have sex with him.

Posted by Buttt : #27 (in reply to #24) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 2:16 AM (from campus)

Surely the engineers have sex with someone, at least each other. Remember in high school, with the unattractive band kids? Like that.

Posted by Humanities Major : #28 (in reply to #12) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 2:21 AM (from campus)

AMEN.

Posted by msrs : #29 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 2:54 AM (from campus)

Wow, we are very good at hiding our numerous SEAS orgies.(After we turn in each midterm/prob set, which are very frequent.)

Posted by double majorer: : #30 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 4:20 AM (from campus)

in a science and in the humanities

humanities kids, i like you so much better: you're nicer, hotter, & usually way more interesting conversationalists -- but my experience and the experiences of all my close friends suggest that science/engineering majors are waaaay more rigorous than any realm of the humanities that i'm familiar with. it's really not even close. SEAS kids could write your english papers much easier than you could do their problem sets. yours requires more contemplations & introspection but fewer people can succeed in the science/engineering realm than in the humanities, because they build off of way more inaccessible prerequisite knowledge

p.s. small sample size i know but to add some credibility, i live with 2 english majors & 2 pre-med engineers. they demonstrate the inequality that I'm contending here every single day

Posted by correction : #31 (in reply to #17) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 4:50 AM (from campus)

wrong wrong wrong! zach got into yale because he got a 1510 or whatever on his SATs, remember, remember?

Posted by annnnd : #32 (in reply to #31) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 4:51 AM (from campus)

i wish i could delete this, as i didn't even bother to read the second half of the sentence before replying.

*face in hands*

Posted by meh : #33 (in reply to #17) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 6:53 AM (from campus)

I hear they are now accepting Flex at the MAX.

Also, Zach got a 1502 on his SAT. No lie - a freakin 1502!

Posted by i love bwog : #34 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 7:21 AM (from campus)

but you should cover the results of campus group elections. :) it would be nice to have them in one place.

Posted by Yeah : #35 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 9:25 AM

Sorry Kiddos,

I've lived with engineers and had the ...erm..joy? of looking over a sizable portion of their papers for Lit Hum before they handed them in. Holy mother of god! Of the five or so engineers (smart engineers by the way) four had papers which were painful to read.

If you doubt the rigor of a humanities major I suggest you go read some of the senior theses of *gasp* English majors! They are erudite and lucid and deserve some respect (although they may not have memorized a page full of formulae from Turro's chem classes).

Also, if you would like self-selecting in the humanities, go check out the Classics majors or the Slavic majors; often they are passionate about their subjects and demonstrate their mental acumen in subjects as daunting as the sciences.

Posted by Fine, but... : #36 (in reply to #35) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 10:18 AM (from campus)

Look at some of the English or History majors struggle with psychology as their science (pah!) requirement. I "had the ...erm..joy?" of grading Calc I problem sets for a semester. Between that and general conversation it's abundant that so many humanities majors have such ignorance (or worse: misunderstanding) of how the actual work around them works.

Engineers don't take for granted all the amenities that modern life provides: computers, skyscrapers, heat, lighting, sewer systems, medicine, cars, airplanes, etc. They work to improve life so that others can sit around and look at art on the internet, listen to music on their iPods, or read books on recycled paper.

I have such amazing respect for composers, writers, artists, and others who create. I have such amazing contempt for those who do nothing but discuss and argue over what has already been created, which seems to be the majority of humanities majors.

Also, um... off campus flex! Hooray!

Posted by Homer : #37 (in reply to #15) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 10:19 AM

Ehh, I'll write it on my hand.

Posted by Humanatee : #38 (in reply to #30) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 10:37 AM (from campus)

"science/engineering majors are waaaay more rigorous than any realm of the humanities that i'm familiar with"

Humanities are hard! Science is hard! Wah wah! Like that one commenter said, different people have different strengths. My strength happens to be in the humanities. Try as I might, I suck at science. I won't apologize for it. I didn't ask to be allotted these strengths - if I had my choice I would have gone for math/science skills that play better in the job market. As it is I'll probably be living in a cardboard box 10 years from now. So science majors, kindly stop whining, it's not my fault the universe decided to hand me the skills for and interest in a field that allows me to have a better quality of undergraduate life due to less rigorous classes. Trust me, it will even out in the end when I'm making 40k a year and you're into six digits.

Posted by did he get : #39 (in reply to #33) · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 12:38 PM (from campus)

a 1502 on the pre-scaled SAT?? i remember looking through one of my sister's SAT books (the ones where there were synonyms/antonyms in the verbal section) and i think you can get weird scores like 1308 on the pre-scaled SAT

Posted by better : #40 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 12:53 PM (from campus)

I r engineer. I r better writer than rest of Lit Hum and seminar poly sci class. I r also better @ mathz.

Youz humaniters have it easeisz

Posted by OVERSIGHT ALERT! : #41 · reply · track

April 29, 2008 at 5:17 PM

Did you losers never watch "Saved by the Bell: The College Years!" With the exception of Lisa and Jesse (who rumor has it took up nails and stripping, respectively), they all attended fictitious, middle-tier California University after Bayside. Geez.

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